Racial Groups And Psychopathic Personalities


Racial Groups And Psychopathic Personalities

 

By Chance Kelsey, chancellorfiles.com

 Chance: Dr. Richard Lynn is one of the world’s leading authorities on Intelligence (IQ) and Eugenics he has written many papers on these subjects. He also, has published books on these subjects. Lynn published an essay titled Personality and Individual Differences, in this article he shows how just as racial groups differ in IQ they also differ when it comes to the degree of psychopathic personality. Lynn’s research shows that blacks have more negative psychopathic people among them than whites, and whites have more psychopaths among them their Northern Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans). Environment, culture, Lack of education, and genetics can’t by themselves explain why blacks have more psychopathic people among them – nor can it explain why whites have more among them than Northern Asians.

   Lynn even showed how other ethnic groups fit into the scale of psychopathic personality. Blacks and Native Americans having the highest number of psychopaths, Hispanics intermediate, whites having less psychopaths than Hispanics, and Northern East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) having the lowest number of psychopaths. Between blacks and Native Americans blacks have more psychopaths.

 Even when blacks have good paying jobs and are well educated they still commit more violence, arrested by police, sexually promiscuous, display pathologies, live in unhappy marriages, and engage in marital infidelity more frequently than whites and Northern Asians. Whites on average engage in the same activities more frequently than Northern Asians. The reality is that Culture, environment, lack of education, and genetics can’t explain all of these things–so there has to be a missing link. Dr. Richard Lynn proposed (suggested)  that the missing link that explains all of this is a personality trait called LACK OF A MORAL SENSE.

 Chance: Psychopathic personality is a negative personality trait in which the main characteristic is lack of a moral sense.  The condition called lack of a moral is characterized by poverty of emotional feelings, lack of remorse or shame, superficial charm, pathological lying, egocentricity, a lack of insight, absence of nervousness, an inability to love, impulsive antisocial acts, failure to learn from experience, reckless behavior under the influence of alcohol, and a lack of long-term goals.

  White racism can’t explain why blacks have all of the social and personal problems they have. I feel that genetics, culture, environment, education, and childhood up bring (which is art of your culture and environment) all contribute to the development of the individual.  

 Read Lynn’s Essay below


Race and Psychopathic Personality

(Personality and Individual Differences)

 

by  Richard Lynn

 
For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

 Low IQ can lead to crime because less intelligent children do poorly at school and fail to learn the skills needed to get well-paid jobs, or even any job. Unemployment is therefore two to three times higher among blacks than whites. People without jobs need money, and have relatively little to lose by robbery or burglary, and may therefore commit property crimes. The association between low intelligence and crime holds for whites as well, among whom the average IQ of criminals is about 84.

 Nevertheless, as Charles Murray and the late Richard Herrnstein showed in their book The Bell Curve, low IQ cannot entirely explain a black crime rate that is six-and-a-half times the white rate. When blacks and whites are matched for IQ, blacks still commit crimes at two-and-a-half times the white rate. This shows that blacks must have some other characteristic, besides low intelligence, that explains their high levels of criminality.

 Prof. Herrnstein and Dr. Murray found the same race and IQ relationship for social problems other than crime: unemployment, illegitimacy, poverty, and living on welfare. All of these are more frequent among blacks and are related to low IQ, and low IQ goes some way towards explaining them, but these social problems remain greater among blacks than among whites with the same IQs. Low intelligence is therefore not the whole explanation. Prof. Herrnstein and Dr. Murray did not offer any suggestions as to what the additional factors responsible for the greater prevalence of these social problems among blacks might be. They concluded only that “some ethnic differences are not washed away by controlling for either intelligence or for any other variables that we examined. We leave those remaining differences unexplained and look forward to learning from our colleagues where the explanations lie” (p. 340).

 
Psychopathic Personality

I propose that the variable that explains these differences is that blacks are more psychopathic than whites. Just as racial groups differ in average IQ, they can also differ in average levels of other psychological traits, and racial differences in the tendency towards psychopathic personality would explain virtually all the differences in black and white behavior left unexplained by differences in IQ.

Psychopathic personality is a personality disorder of which the central feature is lack of a moral sense. The condition was first identified in the early nineteenth century by the British physician John Pritchard, who proposed the term “moral imbecility” for those deficient in moral sense but of normal intelligence. The term psychopathic personality was first used in 1915 by the German psychiatrist Emile Kraepelin and has been employed as a diagnostic label throughout the twentieth century. In 1941 the condition was described by Hervey Cleckley in what has become a classic book, The Mask of Sanity. He described the condition as general poverty of emotional feelings, lack of remorse or shame, superficial charm, pathological lying, egocentricity, a lack of insight, absence of nervousness, an inability to love, impulsive antisocial acts, failure to learn from experience, reckless behavior under the influence of alcohol, and a lack of long-term goals.

In 1984 the American Psychiatric Association dropped the term psychopathic personality and replaced it with “anti-social personality disorder.” This is an expression of the increasing sentimentality of the second half of the twentieth century, in which terms that had acquired negative associations were replaced by euphemisms. There are other examples. Mentally retarded children are now called “slow learners” or even “exceptional children;” aggressive children now have “externalizing behaviors;” prostitutes are “sex workers;” tramps are now “the homeless,” as if their houses were destroyed by earthquake; and people on welfare are “clients” of social workers. However, the term psychopathic personality remains useful.

While psychopathic personality is a psychiatric disorder, it has long been regarded as the extreme expression of a personality trait that is continuously distributed throughout the population. In this respect it is like other psychiatric disorders. For instance, severe depression is a psychiatric disorder, but everyone feels depressed sometimes, and some normal people are depressed more often and more severely than others. It is the same with psychopathic personality. There are degrees of moral sense throughout the population, and psychopaths are the extreme group.

 There is a difference between blacks and whites—analogous to the difference in intelligence—in psychopathic personality considered as a personality trait. Both psychopathic personality and intelligence are bell curves with different means and distributions among blacks and whites. For intelligence, the mean and distribution are both lower among blacks. For psychopathic personality, the mean and distribution are higher among blacks. The effect of this is that there are more black psychopaths and more psychopathic behavior among blacks.

 Psychopathic personality explains many racial differences in behavior that are not explained by differences in IQ.

 In 1994 the American Psychiatric Association issued a revised Diagnostic Manual listing 11 features of anti-social personality disorder: (1) inability to sustain consistent work behavior; (2) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behavior [this is a euphemism for being a criminal]; (3) irritability and aggressivity, as indicated by frequent physical fights and assaults; (4) repeated failure to honor financial obligations; (5) failure to plan ahead or impulsivity; (6) no regard for truth, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or “conning” others; (7) recklessness regarding one’s own or others’ personal safety, as indicated by driving while intoxicated or recurrent speeding; (8) inability to function as a responsible parent; (9) failure to sustain a monogamous relationship for more than one year; (10) lacking remorse; (11) the presence of conduct disorder in childhood.

 This is a useful list. Curiously, however, it fails to include the deficiency of moral sense that is the core of the condition, although this is implicit in virtually every feature of the disorder. All of these behaviors are more prevalent among blacks than among whites, and suggest that blacks have a higher average tendency towards psychopathic personality.

Questionnaires can be used to measure psychopathic personality in normal populations. The first to be constructed was the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI), which was devised in the 1930s. This instrument consists of a series of scales for the measurement of a variety of psychiatric conditions regarded as continuously distributed in the population, such as hysteria, mania and depression, and includes the Psychopathic Deviate Scale for the measurement of psychopathic personality.

During the 65 or so years following its publication, the MMPI has been administered to a great many groups. Mean scores have been published by different investigators for a number of samples of blacks, whites, Asian-Americans, Hispanics and American Indians. All of these studies show a consistent pattern: Blacks and Indians have the highest psychopathic scores. Hispanics come next followed by whites. Ethnic Japanese and Chinese have the lowest scores. The same rank order of racial groups is found for all the expressions of psychopathic personality listed by the American Psychiatric Association, and these differences are found in both children and adults.

 

Conduct Disorder

 The terms psychopathic personality and anti-social personality disorder, however, are not used for children or young adolescents up to the age of 15 years. They are instead said to have conduct disorders. The principal criteria set out by the American Psychiatric Association (1994) for a diagnosis of conduct disorder are persistent stealing, lying, truancy, running away from home, fighting, arson, burglary, vandalism, sexual precocity and cruelty. Childhood conduct disorder is therefore an analogue of psychopathic personality in older adolescents and adults. A number of studies have shown that conduct disorder in children is a frequent precursor of psychopathic behavior.

 Studies have found that the prevalence of conduct disorders is about twice as high among blacks as among whites. This is the case not only in the United States but also in Britain and the Netherlands. Other racial groups also differ in the prevalence of conduct disorders among children. As with all the other expressions of psychopathic personality, conduct disorders are frequent among American Indians.

 Children with conduct disorders are sometimes suspended or expelled from school because of constant misbehavior, particularly aggression. In both the United States and Britain, black children are disciplined in this way three or four times as frequently as white children, while East Asians have low discipline rates. In misbehavior in schools, as in so much else, East Asians are the “model minority.” In the United States, Indians have a high discipline rate.

 Lack of honesty is one of the core features of the psychopathic personality, and one measure of this characteristic is the default rates on student loans. About half of American college students take out loans but not all graduates repay them. The 1987 National Postsecondary Student Aid Study consisting of 6,338 cases reports default rates as follows: whites—5 percent, Hispanics—20 percent, American Indians—45 percent, blacks—55 percent.

 Bad credit ratings also reflect a failure to honor financial obligations. A report by Freddie Mac of 12,000 households in 1999 found the highest percentage of poor credit ratings was among blacks (48 percent). The next highest was among Hispanics (34 percent), while whites had the lowest at 27 percent.

 Psychopathic personality is the extreme expression of a personality trait that is continuously distributed throughout the population.

A prominent feature of psychopathic personality is a high level of aggression, which is expressed in a number of ways including homicide, robbery, assault, and rape. All of these are crimes, so racial and ethnic differences appear in crime rates. High black crime rates have been documented by Jared Taylor and the late Glayde Whitney in The Color of Crime. For homicide, rates for black males are about six times the white rate, and for black females they are about four times higher. The homicide rate for East Asians is about half that of whites. The high homicide rate of blacks is also found in South Africa, and homicide is generally higher in black countries than in white and East Asian countries.

As regards other crimes, the robbery rate for blacks is about twelve times the white rate, while the assault rate is about five times higher. The high black rates for these crimes are followed in descending order by Hispanics, American Indians, whites and East Asians. The rate for rape is about five-and-a-half times greater for blacks than whites, and two to three times greater among Hispanics and Indians as compared to whites, while East Asians commit rape at about half the white rate.
 
Domestic violence shows the same race differences. Severe violence by husbands against wives is about four times more common among blacks as whites. Black wives assault their husbands at about twice the white rate. American Indians assault their spouses even more often than blacks do. High crime rates among blacks have been found not only in the United States but also in Britain, France, Canada and Sweden.

A prominent feature of psychopathic personality is an inability to form stable, long-term loving relationships. David Lykken, a leading expert on psychopathic personalities, writes of the psychopath’s “undeveloped ability to love or affiliate with others,” and Robert Hare, another leading expert, writes that “psychopaths view people as little more than objects to be used for their own gratification” and “equate love with sexual arousal.”

Marriage is the most explicit expression of long-term love, and a number of studies have shown that blacks attach less value to marriage than whites. Questionnaire surveys have found that blacks are less likely than whites to agree that “marriage is for life.” Two American sociologists, R. Staples and L. B. Johnson, write that “Blacks do not rank marriage as highly as whites” and that “Black Americans’ acceptance of this form of relationship is inconsistent with their African heritage.”

In a study of an American sample of 2,059 married people, C. L. Broman found that “blacks are significantly less likely to feel that their marriages are harmonious and are significantly less likely to be satisfied with their marriages.” Other studies of racial and ethnic differences in attitudes have found that whites think about marriage more often than blacks, and have a stronger desire than blacks to find the right marriage partner. There are also racial differences in rates of cohabitation, which also reflects a commitment to a long-term relationship. A survey of 24-to 29-year-olds in Britain found that 68 percent of whites had cohabited but only 38 percent of blacks.

Blacks in the United States, Britain, France and the Caribbean are less likely than whites to marry or enter into stable relationships. In an American survey of 18-to 64-year-olds carried out from 1990 to 1996, 61 percent of whites were married but only 35 percent of blacks. The most likely to be married were East Asians (66 percent). Fifty-five percent of Hispanics and 48 percent of American Indians were married. The same race differences are found in Britain. In a survey carried out in 1991, among 30-to 34-year-olds 68 percent of whites were married but only 34 percent of blacks. Studies of marriage rates for France in the 1990s have also found that blacks are less likely to be married than whites. These differences are also found for cohabitation, with fewer blacks living in unmarried cohabitation relationships than whites.

Differences in marriage rates are reflected in differences in illegitimacy rates. In the United States, black illegitimacy rates are down slightly from their high in 1994, when 70.4 percent of black women who gave birth were unmarried. The 2000 figure of 68.7 is still the highest for any racial group, and is followed by American Indians at 58.4 percent, Hispanics 42.7 percent, whites 22.1 percent, and Asians 14.8 percent. The Asian figure includes populations with greatly differing illegitimacy rates, with native Hawaiians, for example, at 50 percent, Japanese at 9.5 percent, and Chinese at 7.6 percent.

Low rates of stable relationships are found among blacks in the Caribbean islands. In a review of the literature the sociologists B. Ram and G. E. Ebanks write that “In the Caribbean in general . . . there is a substantial amount of movement from one sex partner to another and also a very high percentage of reproduction outside marriage.”

When they do marry, blacks are less tolerant than whites of monogamous constraints. An extreme form of intolerance is murder of one’s spouse. In Detroit in 1982-3, 63 percent of the population was black but 90.5 percent of those who killed their spouses were black. Less extreme forms of aversion to monogamy are adultery and divorce. The Kinsey data on college graduates, collected in the 1940s and 1950s, found that 51 percent of blacks were unfaithful to their spouses during the first two years of marriage compared with 23 percent of whites. Several other studies have confirmed that the incidence of marital infidelity is greater among blacks than among whites. Blacks cite infidelity more frequently than whites as a cause of divorce.

 Blacks also have more sexual partners than whites. The Kinsey survey found that about twice as many black college graduates had had six or more partners before marriage than whites. Many later studies have confirmed this. A survey of 2,026 15-to-18-year-olds in Los Angeles in the mid-1990s found that 38 percent of blacks had had five or more sexual partners, 26 percent of whites, 21 percent of Hispanics and eight percent of East Asians.

 The same differences are found in Britain. In a study of a nationally representative sample of approximately 20,000 16-to 59-year-olds carried out in 1990, 36 percent of blacks had had two or more sexual partners during the previous five years, compared with 29 percent of whites and 18 percent of Asians.

 

 Delay of Gratification

 
The impulsiveness component of psychopathic personality includes an inability or unwillingness to delay immediate gratification in the expectation of long-term advantage. The first study to demonstrate differences between blacks and whites in the delay of gratification was carried out by W. Mischel in Trinidad in the late 1950s. He offered black and white children the choice between a small candy bar now or a larger one in a week. He found black children were much more likely to ask for the small candy bar now, and this difference has been confirmed in three subsequent American studies. This racial difference has been noted but given different names by different writers. In The Unheavenly City Revisited, Edward Banfield writes of the “extreme present-orientation” of blacks, and Michael Levin writes of “high time preference,” an economist’s term for preferring cash now rather than a greater sum in the future.

The APA Diagnostic Manual refers to the psychopathic personality’s “inability to sustain consistent work behavior,” and a number of studies have shown that blacks are less motivated to work than whites and Asians, while Hispanics are intermediate. For example, black students do fewer hours of homework than whites and Asians. Among college students with the same Scholastic Aptitude Test scores, blacks get poorer grades than whites, probably because they don’t work as hard.

This helps explain black unemployment. Several American ethnographic studies of inner city blacks have concluded that many are unwilling to work. Thus, E. Anderson writes that “there are many unemployed black youth who are unmotivated and uninterested in working for a living, particularly in the dead-end jobs they are likely to get.” The sociologist S. M. Petterson writes that “it is commonly contended that young black men experience more joblessness than their white counterparts because they are less willing to seek out low paying jobs.” American Asians are the opposite of blacks in this respect. They have low rates of unemployment and it has been shown by James Flynn that they achieve higher educational qualifications and earnings than would be predicted from their intelligence, suggesting they have strong work motivation.

 In the United States, unemployment rates are highest among Indians followed in descending order by blacks, Hispanics, whites and ethnic Chinese and Japanese. These differences are frequently attributed to white racism but it is difficult to reconcile this explanation with the lower rate of unemployment among East Asians as compared with whites, and also with the higher rate of unemployment among Indians as compared to blacks.

 Blacks in Britain, Canada and France are frequently unemployed. In Britain, the 1991 census found that 26 percent of black men were unemployed, compared with 11 percent of whites and ethnic Chinese. In Canada in 1991, 13 percent of black men were unemployed compared with seven percent of whites. In France in 1994, 11 percent of black men were unemployed compared with eight percent of whites.

 

Recklessness

 
Psychopaths appear to enjoy taking risks because it stimulates them, and there are several ways in which blacks show greater recklessness and risk taking than whites or Asians. In the 1989-93 American Teenage Attitudes and Practices Survey, 9,135 youths aged 12 to 18 were asked to consider the question: “I get a kick out of doing things every now and then that are a little risky or dangerous.” Fifty-six point nine percent of blacks agreed, as compared with 38.6 percent of whites. Driving habits are an index of risk taking and recklessness. A number of studies have shown that blacks run red lights more often than whites, and have more frequent accidents. Five studies have shown that blacks do not use seat belts as often as whites. Hispanics and Native Americans likewise have more accidents caused by recklessness and risk-taking than whites and East Asians.

Edward Banfield writes of the “extreme present orientation of blacks,” and Michael Levin writes of “high time preference.”

Sexual behavior can be reckless. Among those who do not wish to have children, blacks are less likely to use contraception than whites, and this has been found in both the United States and Britain. One result is that black women have more unplanned babies than whites. In the United States in the 1990s blacks had about twice the proportion of unplanned babies as whites and Asians. In Britain, a survey of teenage births carried out in 1994 found that these were three-and-a-half times more common among blacks than among whites and Asians.

 The behavior of reckless men also causes unplanned pregnancies. Surveys have asked adolescent males if they would feel “very pleased” or whether they would care if they were responsible for an unplanned pregnancy. Twice as many blacks as whites say they would be very pleased or that they would not care. To be very pleased or not care about saddling a teenage girl with an unplanned pregnancy expresses a great degree of a reckless regarding the well-being of others. In the United States, the percentage of teenage blacks who have fathered an illegitimate child is approximately three times greater than that of whites, with Hispanics intermediate.

 Another consequence of reckless avoidance of contraceptives is that blacks are more likely to get sexually transmitted diseases—including HIV and AIDS—all of which are more prevalent among blacks than among whites and Asians. At the present time, about 80 percent of the word’s HIV carriers are blacks in sub-Saharan Africa.

 A common expression of conduct disorder in children and young adolescents is sexual precocity. Many studies have shown that blacks are more sexually precocious than whites and Asians. Surveys in the United States in the 1990s have found that about a third of black 13-year-olds have had sexual intercourse compared with 14 percent of whites and Hispanics, and four percent of East Asians. Similarly, a survey in Britain in 1990 found that by the age of 16, 18 percent of blacks had had intercourse compared with 13 percent of whites and five percent of Asians.

 We consider finally the psychopathic characteristic described by the American Psychiatric Association as “inability to function as a responsible parent.” One of the most straightforward measures of this is abuse and neglect. The American Association for Protecting Children has found that black children constitute approximately 15 percent of the child population and about 22 percent of cases of child abuse and neglect. The First (1975) and Second (1985) National Family Violence Surveys carried out in America examined the use of violence towards children, defined as hitting them with the fist or with some object, and kicking, biting and beating them up. It does not include slapping or spanking. It found that 1.2 percent of white parents and 2.1 percent of blacks inflict this kind of severe violence on their children.

Data published by the United States Department of Health and Human Services for 1996 showed that maltreatment was about three times more common among blacks and about one-and-a-half times more common among Hispanics, than among whites.

The most extreme expression of the inability to function as a responsible parent consists of killing a child. Racial differences in the homicide of infants in their first year of life were examined for approximately 35 million babies born in the United States between 1983-91. This study found that 2,776 of these had been murdered, the great majority by mothers or the mothers’ husbands or partners. The rate of infant homicides for blacks and Native Americans was 2 per 10,000, compared with 0.6 per 10,000 for whites and 0.4 per 10,000 for East Asians. In the early 1990s the racial differences became even greater, with blacks having four-and-a-half times the infant homicide rate of whites and Hispanics.

 
Complete Consistency

 
There is almost complete consistency in the racial differences in outcomes that can be considered measures of psychopathic personality. In everything from child behavior to sexual precocity to adult crime rates we find Asians at one extreme, blacks at the other, and whites, Hispanics and American Indians in between. These differences are not only consistent through time but are found in countries such as France, Britain, Canada, and the United States, which have very different histories of what could be called “racism.” Indices of high psychopathic personality in blacks are likewise found in the virtually all-black societies of Africa and the Caribbean.

 Racial differences in psychopathic behavior persist even when IQ is held constant, and the same racial differences are found in essentially every kind of measurable behavior that reflects psychopathic personality. The most plausible explanation for these differences is that just as there are racial differences in average IQ, there are racial differences in what could be called “average personality,” with blacks showing greater psychopathic tendencies. The argument that white “racism” is responsible for black social pathology is increasingly unconvincing.

 Richard Lynn is retired professor of psychology of the University of Ulster. This article is based on a longer paper published in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, 2002, Vol. 32, pp.273-316.


  1. You still on this crazy stuff man? First of all morality is an abstract concept that only can be related to group standards and norms. Therefore it is only possibly to evaluate psychopathic tendencies in relation to group normative behavior. This means that CULTURE does define morality and therefore culture has to be the base measurement of psychopathic behavior.

    But more to the point. My site is back up. Visit when you get a chance. Dell…

  2. chance

    @ Dell

    Yes, I agree that culture plays a major role but culture is not the only thing at play here. Culture is just one of the numerous factors, and genetics can’t explain all of this either neither can environment. It is a combination of all even childhood up bringing. What I wrote let it be know that culture is one of the factors and that all these factors influence our way of thinking, emotions, and moral character.

    Good to see you back Dell!

  3. John

    If I had any doubt that this is actually a white supremacist site fronting as a biracial blog, that doubt has been dispelled with this blog entry.

  4. Roger

    Too true. I just found this site today and I can’t believe it. I feel that I’ve taken a trip back in time. From what I’ve seen the ,while professing race neutrality, you certainly have nothing good to say about black people. They’re probably more racist than their white parents. They, at least, dated and or married black people. Where’s the study on the pathology of white people who traveled all over the world committing genocide and slavery stealing other people’s land and imposing other languages customs on them. According to you, people black people are the lowest of the low and that’s sick. They predicted a few years ago that with a rise of interracial marriages there would be a class of biracial children who would help us out of the racial mess that country is. I’m a white man in love with and married to black woman for the past 7 years. My wife, a beautiful African phenotype , to use your language, comes from an educated, refined and very descent family. While I love my own family, we don’t hold a candle to them as far as culture, education and travel etc.. We live in New York City and enjoy all the cultural offerings here black and white. Lots of our black friends and the parents at our daughter’s school are like my wife and her family. Maybe you’re not exposed to broad enough group of people representing all levels of black society. Oh and by the way my wife gets her share of dirty looks and comments from white women. And from what I’m told interracial couples like us, until only the last 30 years or so, were only accepted in the black community. You certainly couldn’t live in the white community. And in that time single white women gave their biracial children up for adoption. Usually only black families wanted them.

  5. Chance

    [quote comment=”26124″]If I had any doubt that this is actually a white supremacist site fronting as a biracial blog, that doubt has been dispelled with this blog entry.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”26156″]

    My Response: This is not a racist blog John, I write about many topics and you just ran into this one that is all.

    Too true. I just found this site today and I can’t believe it. I feel that I’ve taken a trip back in time. From what I’ve seen the ,while professing race neutrality, you certainly have nothing good to say about black people. They’re probably more racist than their white parents. They, at least, dated and or married black people. Where’s the study on the pathology of white people who traveled all over the world committing genocide and slavery stealing other people’s land and imposing other languages customs on them. According to you, people black people are the lowest of the low and that’s sick. They predicted a few years ago that with a rise of interracial marriages there would be a class of biracial children who would help us out of the racial mess that country is. I’m a white man in love with and married to black woman for the past 7 years. My wife, a beautiful African phenotype , to use your language, comes from an educated, refined and very descent family. While I love my own family, we don’t hold a candle to them as far as culture, education and travel etc.. We live in New York City and enjoy all the cultural offerings here black and white. Lots of our black friends and the parents at our daughter’s school are like my wife and her family. Maybe you’re not exposed to broad enough group of people representing all levels of black society. Oh and by the way my wife gets her share of dirty looks and comments from white women. And from what I’m told interracial couples like us, until only the last 30 years or so, were only accepted in the black community. You certainly couldn’t live in the white community. And in that time single white women gave their biracial children up for adoption. Usually only black families wanted them.[/quote]

    Roger wrote: Too true. I just found this site today and I can’t believe it. I feel that I’ve taken a trip back in time. From what I’ve seen the ,while professing race neutrality, you certainly have nothing good to say about black people. They’re probably more racist than their white parents. They, at least, dated and or married black people. Where’s the study on the pathology of white people who traveled all over the world committing genocide and slavery stealing other people’s land and imposing other languages customs on them. According to you, people black people are the lowest of the low and that’s sick.

    My response: We all know what whites have done by way of their pathologies. Black people being the lowest of the low — where did you draw that conclusion from and attributing it to me. I do feel that based upon what I am seeing from the world and blacks them selves that yes they are viewed as the lowest of the low, and I feel that many of them make sure that they verify this perception that other ethnic groups have of them. Many of the same unpleasant things that certain members of other ethnic groups do to blacks — blacks do the same things to blacks. This makes people believe that blacks agree subconsciously with the view that others have of them. Until blacks treat themselves better they will continue to be viewed as low.

    Also, I am pro interracial marriages. Yes black families wanted biracial children, mixed children look nice. How come they chose bi racial children for adoptions over black children with more black looking phenotypes? Because the bi racial children looked better physically in the minds of some of the black adoptive parents.

    I write about many subjects too, this topic is just one of them.

    You claim to be a white man YAWN but you can simply be a black person or person of another race pretending to be black. I have been exposed to all sides of black American culture as well as other cultures.

    I encourage interracial marriages this will help increase more mulattoes, and a black woman with a bi racial child seldom will put the one drop blood rule on the child.

  6. Chance

    [quote comment=”26124″]If I had any doubt that this is actually a white supremacist site fronting as a biracial blog, that doubt has been dispelled with this blog entry.[/quote]

    My response: This is not a racist blog John, I write about many topics, and you just ran into this one.

    [quote comment=”26156″]Too true. I just found this site today and I can’t believe it. I feel that I’ve taken a trip back in time. From what I’ve seen the ,while professing race neutrality, you certainly have nothing good to say about black people. They’re probably more racist than their white parents. They, at least, dated and or married black people. Where’s the study on the pathology of white people who traveled all over the world committing genocide and slavery stealing other people’s land and imposing other languages customs on them. According to you, people black people are the lowest of the low and that’s sick. They predicted a few years ago that with a rise of interracial marriages there would be a class of biracial children who would help us out of the racial mess that country is. I’m a white man in love with and married to black woman for the past 7 years. My wife, a beautiful African phenotype , to use your language, comes from an educated, refined and very descent family. While I love my own family, we don’t hold a candle to them as far as culture, education and travel etc.. We live in New York City and enjoy all the cultural offerings here black and white. Lots of our black friends and the parents at our daughter’s school are like my wife and her family. Maybe you’re not exposed to broad enough group of people representing all levels of black society. Oh and by the way my wife gets her share of dirty looks and comments from white women. And from what I’m told interracial couples like us, until only the last 30 years or so, were only accepted in the black community. You certainly couldn’t live in the white community. And in that time single white women gave their biracial children up for adoption. Usually only black families wanted them.[/quote]

    Roger wrote: Too true. I just found this site today and I can’t believe it. I feel that I’ve taken a trip back in time. From what I’ve seen the ,while professing race neutrality, you certainly have nothing good to say about black people. They’re probably more racist than their white parents. They, at least, dated and or married black people. Where’s the study on the pathology of white people who traveled all over the world committing genocide and slavery stealing other people’s land and imposing other languages customs on them. According to you, people black people are the lowest of the low and that’s sick.

    My response: We all know what whites have done by way of their pathologies. Black people being the lowest of the low — where did you draw that conclusion from and attributing it to me. I do feel that based upon what I am seeing from the world and blacks them selves that yes they are viewed as the lowest of the low, and I feel that many of them make sure that they verify this perception that other ethnic groups have of them. Many of the same unpleasant things that certain members of other ethnic groups do to blacks — blacks do the same things to blacks. This makes people believe that blacks agree subconsciously with the view that others have of them. Until blacks treat themselves better they will continue to be viewed as low.

    Also, I am pro interracial marriages. Yes black families wanted biracial children, mixed children look nice. How come they chose bi racial children for adoptions over black children with more black looking phenotypes? Because the bi racial children looked better physically in the minds of some of the black adoptive parents.

    I write about many subjects too, this topic is just one of them.

    You claim to be a white man YAWN but you can simply be a black person or person of another race pretending to be black. I have been exposed to all sides of black American culture as well as other cultures.

    I encourage interracial marriages this will help increase more mulattoes, and a black woman with a bi racial child seldom will put the one drop blood rule on the child. 

     
    Black women, white men, and wishing for mulatto children

  7. Roger

    You’ve just proved my claim. I brought up the historical stuff to discuss how the current situation represents a change in the conditions for interracial couples and biracial children. Since all this affects me personally I make it my business to know. I’m not an advocate for any marriage over any other. I married the woman I love and I’m trying to figure out what to say to my daughter. I’m glad I found this site because it’s opened my eyes to what’s being said on this topic.It will help us avoid the traps in this discourse.

  8. Chance

    [quote comment=”26211″]You’ve just proved my claim. I brought up the historical stuff to discuss how the current situation represents a change in the conditions for interracial couples and biracial children. Since all this affects me personally I make it my business to know. I’m not an advocate for any marriage over any other. I married the woman I love and I’m trying to figure out what to say to my daughter. I’m glad I found this site because it’s opened my eyes to what’s being said on this topic.It will help us avoid the traps in this discourse.[/quote]

    Roger wrote: I’m glad I found this site because it’s opened my eyes to what’s being said on this topic.It will help us avoid the traps in this discourse.

    My response: Then this site has done its job because you have learned something. Also, there are many thoughts and opinions that are said on this topic mine was just one.

  9. Roger

    Yes, I have learned/been exposed somethings, I’m sad to say, because of this site. I’m sure that they aren’t things that you might have hoped to teach. And btw tired old, harmful and unproven eugenics left over from Nazi Germany YAWN.

  10. Chance

    [quote comment=”26391″]Yes, I have learned/been exposed somethings, I’m sad to say, because of this site. I’m sure that they aren’t things that you might have hoped to teach. And btw tired old, harmful and unproven eugenics left over from Nazi Germany YAWN.[/quote]

    My response: Eugenics was around before the Nazis, eugenics goes back to the 19th century, and the nazis came along in the 20th century. Charles Darwin was one of the men who made the science of eugenics popular, and Darwin live in the 19th century. But eugenics was around before Darwin. The Nazis just picked it up and added it to their Nazi philosophy. Actually eugenics has been proven from my observations to basically effective. Just look at Europe from 12th century all the way to the medieval times, and renaissance time period. It is when something has been abused that’s when it becomes a problem.

  11. Elle

    Eugenics was around before the Nazis, eugenics goes back to the 19th century, and the nazis came along in the 20th century. Charles Darwin was one of the men who made the science of eugenics popular, and Darwin live in the 19th century. But eugenics was around before Darwin. The Nazis just picked it up and added it to their Nazi philosophy. Actually eugenics has been proven from my observations to basically effective. Just look at Europe from 12th century all the way to the medieval times, and renaissance time period. It is when something has been abused that’s when it becomes a problem.

    Yes Chance, you are exactly right. Social Darwinism is the exact same thing as Darwinism. People just added the word “social” to try to distance the two things. Herbert Spencer the Social Darwinist was a major influence in Darwin’s theory of evolution by way of natural selection. Eugenics is voluntarily practiced in Latin American countries like Brazil. There is nothing wrong with mixing your gene pool to produce nicer offspring, that’s common sense, as long as you don’t take it to extremes like putting people in concentration camps.

  12. Do you have any idea what ur saying CHANCE I am sad 2 say u and I share a common name as for ur theories, I think u should try and spend a day in the LIFE of the people *(race)* u speak of.U just might learn something…
    *^BY THE WAY AM OF MIX RACE AND PROUD OF IT. WELL AS U HAVE A LONG WAY 2 GO.^*

  13. Chance

    EllEChaRm wrote: Do you have any idea what ur saying CHANCE I am sad 2 say u and I share a common name as for ur theories, I think u should try and spend a day in the LIFE of the people *(race)* u speak of.U just might learn something…
    *^BY THE WAY AM OF MIX RACE AND PROUD OF IT. WELL AS U HAVE A LONG WAY 2 GO.^*


    My response:
    It is just an article for the readership, and I found it very interesting there are some things that are very enlightening in the article. Many people have some mixture but the question is to what degree. One mixed race person may identify as black, another as white, and another as mixed race. I say let them be, and no one should harass them for how they identify, neither should they harass each other for how each self identify.

    Many mixed race people who have some black ancestry walk in the shoes of black people every day and suffer right along with blacks because of the silly stupid ODR (one drop rule also known as the one drop blood rule) they experience blackness too I America. Yet they suffer worse because they are not fully black, and some get mistreated by blacks because they are mixed race looking (visible white ancestry and ancestries from other non black racial groups).

    It is all good though, it is nice to be mixed race if that is what one is enjoy it I do.

  14. Marie

    this is funny. i seriously doubt that as a group, white people are in any moral authority to discuss moral authority. ofcurse lynn is a leading authority on his distorted ideas. if i said, wild tigers make the best house pets and wrote anthologies about it, id be considered the leading authority on the subject too. a real scientist wouldnt state this becasue real scientist know that genetically, the race arent different. it is the social and environmental factors that determine the summation. black ppl dont have higher rates of heart disease because they have naturally weaker hearts, they die cuz culturally, they eat poorly. cornbread and pork was finw when working hard on a plantation all day. it was fine cuz we know they ate very little of it, since they ate very little at all.
    this guy is nuts. samuel cartwright would be proud.
    if i were small minded and racist id argue which is worse…single mom welfare (black stereotype) or corporate welfare (white strereotype)… getting shot over shoes (crazy black person crime) or getting cut up into little pieces and buried in a shoebox (crazy whiter person crime)

  15. Chance

    Marie in the essay that Richard Lynn let it be known that genetics by themselves does not explain all of the pathologies and social ills that affect black people. He let it be known that culture, environment, uneducated, and lack of a moral sense play a role too.

    Race being a social construct still does not change the reality that racial groups are different as collectives in behaviors, talents, habits, how they view life, educational, etc.

  16. Marie

    true. considering all the factors that effect black ppl in america, its no suprise they are crazy as hell. im suprised theyve made it this far.

  17. Marie

    to add. its funny how native americans and blacks are high on the list. think about what the groups have in common. oh, thats right- white oppression.
    if white societal standards are the “norm” please sign me up for the psychopathic club.

  18. Chance

    Marie wrote: to add. its funny how native anericans and blacks are high on the list. think about what the groups have in common. oh, thats right- white oppression.
    if white societal standards are the “norm” please sign me up for the psychopathic club.

    My respone: That is true, the two groups that have been oppressed the most, and have lost large numbers of their members to white violence (killings, murder, whites attacking Native Americans by way of war and causing them to loose many numbers of people, racism, hate, torture, etc) do share similar social ills that devastates their communities through out America. Some of these social ills are part of their own faults, and some the lingering effects of racism in the case of blacks and neglect by the American government in the case of Native Americans.

    The government does help Native Americans, but they do not push as hard as could by making sure that education, development of towns, electricity, cable, Internet, and other things are in place among all Native American nations. There are still some native Americans who don’t even have Internet or cable television is available. These and other basic things should have been available to all native American nations when they first came out. Native Americans have to make sure they keep an eye on their leaders — so these leaders don’t take advantage of them.

  19. Paige Davis

    Hello webmaster…Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts ! it was a great Sunday .

  20. Chance

    Thank you very much, and come by again.

  21. AP

    Richard Lynn holds absolutely no
    true credibility whatsoever in most
    scientific-circles worldwide – as he
    is well-known for his racist, sexist
    and anti-Semitic writings in which he has
    repeatedly attempted to use both Eugenics
    and other forms of pseudo-science in a
    thinly-veiled effort to hide his obvious
    disdain for all women; for Jewish people;
    for black people and for all other of-color
    people found within the world, as well.

    Richard Lynn doesn’t even use any actual
    ‘valid scientific measurements’ for his
    “research” (or his pre-textual “findings”)
    – but rather – utilizes the tools of the
    racist pseudo-science known as ‘Eugenics’

    Eugenics, by the way is the very exact same
    pseudo-science used by monsters like Nazi
    leader ‘Joseph Mengele’ in his inhumane
    medical tests on twins sent to the Nazi
    concentration camps – and – used by racist
    bureaucrats, such as Walter Plecker when he
    influenced the ‘one drop rule’ to become seen
    as both ‘science and law’ in the United States.

    A large number of neo-conservatives (such as
    the authors of the highly controversial and
    largely discredited book ‘The Bell Curve’)
    and neo-fascist organizations (such as the
    neo-Nazis and skin head organizations like
    Storm Front) just love to quote his work
    and Lynn, himself, even actually sits
    on the board of the openly racist and
    anti-Semitic organization known as
    ‘The Pioneer Fund’ (which is listed
    by the Southern Poverty Law Center
    and the Anti-Defamation League as
    being an undeniable ‘hate group’).

    Richard Lynn, in my humble opinion,
    is really nothing more than a pompous,
    sexist, anti-Semitic, racist, weak,
    and insecure little man – who, due
    to his being unable to face up
    to any of his own inadequacies,
    pathetically works to attempt to
    build the world into a false gender
    and racial hierarchy-based society
    where he, ”just happens” to sit
    in a very secure position.

    There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that
    Richard Lynn could ever “research”; state,
    write or publish that would even stand a
    prayer of having any validity with me.

    Richard Lynn is an absolute disgrace to the
    field of science and research; he is a tragic
    example of what a racial-supremacist mindset
    against any group); and he (seeing that
    he is proud to following in the footsteps
    of the Nazis and other monsters) truly
    needs both mental and spiritual help in
    order to relate to the rest of mankind.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Fund#Controversy
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3357

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#United_States
    http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/
    http://www.shoaheducation.com/pNEW.html
    http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/deadlymedicine

    http://www.alternet.org/story/19331/e/
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3812/is_199909/ai_n8864585
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3812/is_199909/ai_n8864585/print

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OneDropRule/message/7794

  22. Chance

    AP,

    Richard Lynn does have some credibility among many of his scientific peers, and some other scientific researchers in his field consider what he writes about to be inaccurate. Often when a person is an expert in his field some of his peers and readers consider what he writes to be valid, other consider it to be invalid, and some consider some things written to be 50% and 50% incorrect. This happens with any expert in any field.

    Richard Lynn can make mistakes just like anyone else, but this does not mean that he is inaccurate all the time.

    Many people who criticize eugenics, IQ, genetics, and other fields of study often don’t study in those fields themselves. The Bell Curve has really not been totally discredited, certain chapters in the Bell curve have been criticized by certain scholars, and many scholars, researchers, and readers find it an enjoyable and interesting book (bell curve).
    One the major problems with African Americans (blacks) is that they don’t offer enough intellectual evidence to refute and disprove what others say bout them.

    They don’t offer a lot of evidence to disprove the majority of the things people say about them. They just keep saying it is racism. In certain situation saying that it is racism will not cut it. You need to disprove what was said. Often from my experience many blacks hold some of the same beliefs about their fellow blacks that many whites and non whites hold.
    I recommend you go study eugenics more in detail eugenics has been practiced among humanity for generations.

    I wrote an essay about eugenics please go to the search box and type up eugenics and read it. Eugenics is only bad when it is being abused. If it is not being abused the eugenics alright.

  23. AP

    Chance,

    Richard Lynn is an anti-Semitic, sexist,
    racist, who holds to the same beliefs and
    utilizes the same “research” tools used by
    the Nazis of World War II (i.e. Eugenics).

    He is a standing Board member of a
    well-known hate group (the Pioneer
    Fund) which openly advocates the use of the
    racist false “science” known as ‘Eugenics’

    The practice of ‘Eugenics’ was used by people
    like Joseph Mengele in his torture of twins in
    the Nazi concentration camp –and– by people
    like Walter Plecker in his influencing the
    racist ‘One Drop Rule’ to falsely declare
    Mixed-Race people to mis-categorized as being
    mono-racially Black; to declare falsely
    declare that Mixed-Race (and numerous other
    groups of-color) as “inferior”; to perceive
    Black blood as tainted; and to be used to
    deny interracial couples the right to marry
    (i.e. enact anti-miscegenation laws) and to
    (both of whose practices and beliefs
    Richard Lynn very openly supports).

    My brain is boggled as to how any
    person-of-color — but particularly
    a Mixed-Race person — would in any way
    support or even tolerate the ignorance of
    a racist, sexist, anti-Semitic individual
    like Richard Lynn — particularly when,
    as a Eugenicist, Richard Lynn sees
    Multi-racials as a “curse” on society.

    As hard as it is to believe, during
    World War II, there were people who
    were part-Jewish — yet had a self-hating
    disdain for anything related to the Jewish
    people — and this self-hatred led to them
    figuring out ways to join the Nazi party
    and participate in the mass murder and
    torture of their own and other people.

    When I see a person who claims to be
    Mixed-Race both continually use every
    opportunity they can to attack the
    Black people of the world and / or
    to support or tolerate an individual
    like Richard Lynn, my mind is instantly
    carried back to the self-hating Jewish
    people of World War II who became Nazis.

    In the same vein that “Blowing out another
    person’s candle will not make their own shine
    any brighter” — I feel you need to understand
    that consistently acting contemptuous toward
    the Black people of the world, does not make
    the Black blood in your veins become any more
    diluted — and it will only add to your own
    burdens in this world and in this life.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OneDropRule/message/7794

    In addition, I want to go back to your use
    of and your apparent misunderstanding
    of the term ‘African-American’.

    For some reason, despite all the links
    I have forward you seem to mistakenly
    think that the term ‘African-American’ is
    synonymous with the tern ‘Black American’.

    As a result, I feel it is high time someone
    informed you that the two groups are not
    the same people grouping; the two terms
    are not synonymous and the two terms
    should not be used interchangeably.

    Just as it is more than possible to be
    a member of the ‘Black American’ (BA)
    RACE group and not be a member of the
    ‘African-American’ (AA) ETHNIC group
    — it is more than possible to be a
    member of the ‘African-American’
    (AA) ETHNIC group and, at the
    same time, to *not* be a member
    of the Black RACIAL group.

    In fact, according to Dr. Luigi Cavelli-Sforza
    (who is the REAL authority on human gentics
    and the Executive Director of the Human Genome
    Project), not only is the African-American
    (AA) ETHNIC group seen throughout the world as
    being a largely Multi-Racial people grouping
    (like that of the Latinos, the Arabs, etc.)
    — BUT — research done by the Human Genome
    Project and led by Dr. Cavelliu-Sforza has
    repeatedly proven that MORE THAN 70% of
    all of the people who are born to two (2)
    parents who are BOTH members of the AA
    ETHNIC group have a “racial” lineage
    of MORE THAN 25% Amerindian and 20-30%
    European — which means that, more than
    70% of all full-AAs have less than
    50% Black/Sub-Saharan African blood
    and, thus, makes them Mixed-Race
    or Multiracial — not Black.

    The ‘African-Americans’ (AAs) are — like
    the Italians, Swedes, Irish, Norwegians,
    etc. — ‘a very specific’ ETHNIC group;
    are *not* a RACIAL group at all; and are
    largely of a Multi-Racial blood lineage

    As a result, unless one is referring to a
    socio-political identity of ‘pan-africanism’
    (a.k.a. “black”), to refer to most of the AAs
    as being ‘Black’ is to apply the very same
    ‘One Drop Rule’ (ODR) to them that you claim
    to not want applied to yourself — and to
    do so is not only a form of racism, it is
    also a form of double-standard hypocrisy.

    What gets me about your contact attacks on the
    people of the African-American ETHNIC group
    is that you continually use the term “them”
    in all of you references — when, in fact,
    for all we know, you may yourself also be
    a member of their very same ETHNIC grouping
    (again, you don’t have to be Black to be of
    the AA Ethnicity — all you have to be is
    “a descendent of the survivors of the negro
    chattel-slavery system on the continental
    United States during the Antebellum period”
    — and many of those of us who are Mixed-Race
    are also proudly members of this Ethnicity).

    Again — the information found in the links
    below may be of help to you in all of this:

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiebDu.tSshJzQ0wS5fMp7jty6IX?qid=20070623205206AANUzPN&show=7#profile-info-q1hdwifgaa
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Al5eeK2CFwcv4rD5U5qzvEfty6IX?qid=20070527201834AAIhzhM&show=7#profile-info-CiC2JY9Maa
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OneDropRule/message/7794
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3357

    Also — it strikes me as interesting that you
    hold to this preposterous demand that the
    ‘African-Americans’ (who are, for the most
    part, not Black, but rather are Multi-racial)
    have to “offer enough intellectual evidence
    to refute and disprove what others say bout
    them.” — when you make this requirement
    of no one else — including the
    rest of us Mixed-Race people?

    Your beliefs are NOT in anyway a part of those
    that we in the Multi-Racial Movement adhere to.

    Those of us who are Activists in
    The Movement are not racist, sexists
    or anti-Semites; we do not target any
    group for stereotyping, attack, bad press,
    disdain, condescension and the like; and we
    would never ever, ever support anyone who does.

    Your recommendation that I “go study eugenics”
    is rather humorous — seeing that this is a field
    that I, and many other true Multi-racials, have
    both studied and worked hard to show as being
    both wrong and evil for many, many years.

    If you are truly Mixed-Race and proud of
    being Mixed-Race, you would turn away from
    the teaching embraced by people such as
    Richard Lynn; Walter Plecker and the like.

    Do you not understand that — as
    a Multi-Racial — ‘you’ are their
    prime example of everything that
    is wrong with mankind and society?

    Are you really even a Multi-Racial person
    at all; if so, how can you possibly support
    a belief system that led to the deaths of
    15 million people in concentration camps
    of World War II; crated anti-miscegenation
    laws; led to the mis-categorization of
    Mixed-Race people and also claims that any
    amount of blood in your veins is “tainted”?

    Are you kidding me?!?!!?!!

  24. Paige Davis

    Hey!…Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts about apa research paper..what a nice Thursday .

  25. Chance

    Paige Davis,

    I will try to keep up with sources and references that I draw some of my research from.
    Thanks for coming by the intellectual mad house side.




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