Wayne Joseph Thought He was Black

 Wayne Joseph Thought He Was Black

By Chance, chancellorfiles.com

Wayne Joseph was a victim of the one drop rule that said if you have one drop of black blood meaning black ancestors in your then you are black. Wayne was born in Louisiana and he is creole. All of his life he thought he was black. Wayne had a phenotype that in his eyes, and in the eyes of black and white Americans rendered him black. Thus going on the assumption that he was black he lived the life of a black man. He internalized the African American experience, dealt with all of the good and bad  situations and circumstances that go along with being an black man in America.   

From the time of his childhood he had been raised black, his phenotype (physical appearance) looked black to him — and his neighborhoods. So there was no reason to think of himself as non black.

Until He had an DNA test done on him. The test came back 57% indo European, 39% Native American, 4% east Asian, and 0%  black African. Geneticist believe that about 5% of the African American population don’t have any DNA markers from sub Saharan Africa meaning they don’t have any black genes. But even though they don’t have any DNA markers from sub Sahara Africa they still call themselves black because that is how they have been raised, they think they have black ancestry in their genes.

Wayne says he has been called a nigger before. This is very interesting because he you look at his photo he looks like a man from India. He looks just like many Indian men and women, looks like people from Bangladesh and Pakistan. The DNA test said 57% indo European, and indo European is central Asian (India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Afghanistan).       

The one drop blood rule has always been a problem, and Wayne Joseph is one of the victims who has found some liberation from it. 

 

  
Man as ‘black’for 50 years finds out he’s probably not
( 2003-12-29 13:46) (Agencies)

 

Wayne Joseph, the principal of a big suburban high school in southern California, had an unequivocal sense of his black heritage, having written extensively about race in America.

 

But after seeing a TV story last April about a Florida company, DNA Print Genomics, which marketed an ancestry-by-DNA test, he began to wonder exactly how much of him was African, how much wasn’t, and what else there might be in his genes.

"I sent away for their kit and received the kit, happened to swab both sides of my cheek and sent the swabs in," Joseph said.

A few weeks later, the results arrived at his comfortable Claremont, Calif., home.

"I just glanced at it, just a cursory glance initially — didn’t really notice it much," Joseph said. "Then, I went back to it, because all of a sudden it hit me exactly what I had read. And it read, 57 percent Indo-European, 39 percent Native American, 4 percent East Asian and 0 percent African.

After a lifetime as a black man, Wayne Joseph discovered he probably isn’t black at all. ‘

Complete Shock

"I kiddingly say, if I was 21 instead of 50, I’d be in therapy," Joseph said, "because when you define yourself one way and then at 50, there are results that say you’re something else, it does rock your whole world.

It also rocked the world of Martin and Kenya, his kids from his first marriage — to a black woman.

"Honestly, I didn’t know what to say," Kenya said. "I was in complete shock."

Joseph asked his mother, Betty, if he was adopted. "He is not adopted," she said. "Mother doesn’t forget when she has a baby. And I had three babies. And he was one of them."

On both sides, the Joseph family is of Creole stock, which does not necessarily mean African ancestry. Yet, before DNA tests, in the segregated parishes of Louisiana they’d always defined themselves as black, or "colored" in the old-fashioned parlance, despite their light complexions.

Betty Joseph said at age 76, DNA results will not alter the way she’s identified herself all her life. She is a black woman. Or so she insists.

"It’s hard to break old habits at my age," Betty Joseph said.

But Wayne’s kids seem to be doing a bit more identity searching.

"That really makes myself and my sister sit back and say, ‘OK, what are we comprised of?’" Martin said.

"I think this opens up a lot of doors," Kenya said, "and forces people to look at things differently about how we classify people with regard to race."

Room for Doubt?

The DNA test is very sophisticated, but it is not accurate to the tiniest fraction of ancestral genes — which means in this case, maybe there’s room for doubt.

"There are some people who have said to me, ‘Oh, Wayne, you know, [you’ve] got to get retested. I mean, it can’t be right,’" Joseph said. "And so my response to them is, ‘OK, let’s say I get retested, I come back 9 percent African, 10 percent African, so I’m back in the club now?’"

Instead, Joseph is focusing on one of the old South’s most enduring legacies. The so-called "one drop" rule, "says that anyone who has one black ancestor or any black blood at all is considered black in this country," Joseph said.

"The interesting thing about it is the one-drop rule is a rule that was imposed by slave owners who did not want the white purity in some way blemished by black blood," Joseph added. "And we still, black people and white people in this country, still hold to that rule."

Some with black ancestors choose to identify themselves as white, thereby trying to avoid the racial penalties usually paid by African-Americans. It’s an old and familiar theme in Hollywood in films like the latest of the genre, The Human Stain — in which a college professor with African genes lives as white and Jewish.

Only in an absurd farce, like The Jerk, does a white man identify himself as black, though, in a way, that is precisely what Wayne Joseph proudly, if unwittingly, did for the last 50 years. The question is, what does he do now?

Joseph’s birth certificate says he was born in New Orleans, and lists his race and color as "Negro." And his life has been that of a black American — including his hair style as a college kid, which was about as close as he could get to an Afro.

He’s had his exposure to racism as well.

"I’ve been called a n—-r before by white kids," Joseph said. "I’ve experienced being rousted by the police, with some friends. I’ve had the so-called — if there are typical, you know — black experiences. I’ve had those."

And without having the chance to make a choice, he has passed on his pride in being a black man to his family.

"We were taught growing up to embrace our black heritage," Kenya said, "and really be proud of what that means, and the struggles that black people went through."

Ethnic Hodgepodge

Yet, Wayne Joseph did not espouse a black separatist ideology. His wife, Marcia, is white. They’ve been married for 17 years. The children have always lived with them and she helped raise them.

Martin is married to a woman whose ancestry is German and Hispanic, and they have a daughter, Stephanie, Wayne Joseph’s only grandchild so far. Kenya, studying for an MBA, is married to a man of Mexican descent.

Wayne Joseph’s circle of friends is a racial and ethnic hodgepodge many blacks and most whites do not have — though, they didn’t quite get it when he told them about his DNA test after knowing him for so many years as an African-American.

In their close knit camaraderie, where one friend man named his son after Joseph, about the only difference they ever recognized is that Joseph doesn’t put mustard on his hot dogs and he won’t eat the icing on his cake. Is that racial?

"We should have known right then there was something wrong with him," a friend joked.

Who’s Black?  Who’s White?

But all kidding aside, Joseph’s DNA discovery raises a serious challenge to the way American culture seems to insist on a racial identity for everyone.

"We are very dichotomous in the United States," said Mark Shriver, the DNA test co-inventor. "You’re either black or white. And understandably, less than 200 years ago, that meant life or death, basically — who was master, who was slave."

Shriver cautions the test does not always provide exact results always. Still, about 7,000 people have taken it, including Joseph.

Tony Frudacas, the other test co-creator and the director of DNA Print Genomics, said the company gets a lot of hate-mail these days from white supremacists who’ve heard about the test and don’t like it.

"They might be afraid of what they might find in their own genomes," Frudacas said. "Five percent of European Americans exhibit some detectable level of African ancestry."

That means about one in 20 so-called white Americans have African genes.

Wayne Joseph’s circle of friends is a racial and ethnic hodgepodge many blacks and most whites do not have — though, they didn’t quite get it when he told them about his DNA test after knowing him for so many years as an African-American.

In their close knit camaraderie, where one friend man named his son after Joseph, about the only difference they ever recognized is that Joseph doesn’t put mustard on his hot dogs and he won’t eat the icing on his cake. Is that racial?

"We should have known right then there was something wrong with him," a friend joked.

Frudacas’ test told him he has about 6 percent Native American ancestry.

"My first thought when I saw that result was that I wasn’t going to really be able to watch a cowboys and Indians movie the same way again, because I was affiliated with both groups," Frudacas said.

Shriver discovered his ancestry is 10 percent African, which means that under the old one drop rule, he’s more of a black man than Wayne Joseph, who may not be a black man at all.

So how will Joseph fill in the race space on his census form? It is, he says, a question of choosing between the past and the future.

"The future is my grandchildren," Joseph said. "I want them to be able to say that my grandfather made a choice, one way or the other. If I’m given that census form, I’m going to mark ‘Native American.’ Because no one will doubt that I’m a native of this country or that my story is uniquely an American one."


  1. Elle

    What do you mean “liberation”? It’s not like he was in prison. I don’t know why he “internalized” any kind of “struggle”, that was his choosing.

  2. Chance

    Elle Wrote:
    Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 4:14 pm –
    What do you mean “liberation”? It’s not like he was in prison. I don’t know why he “internalized” any kind of “struggle”, that was his choosing.

    My response: Elle, Wayne did not have a choice at first because when he was born — his mother and father told him he was black. So going on that assumption — combined with how his phenotype (physical appearance) looked he thought he was black. So he lived the life of a black man (African American), and lived the African American experience in America.

  3. Randi

    @Chance,

    He probably lived the same experiences as black men too. If he was the color of coal and told me he was not black I wouldn’t accept as one. Mulattos keep shouting out that you are not black until you get our FULL and undivided attention.

  4. Cee Cee

    That man does not look black. He looks Indian and even Latino, not black.

  5. Joseph

    I’m not sure if he looks latino. Latinos are white. Unless you’re talking about mixed latinos who are mulattoes or mestizos, who people usually identify as latino because they are of Spanish descent. But latino is also used for people part of that Spanish culture (like Americans being of American culture which includes all races, mostly) so it can also include blacks and indians, and asians so latino looking is not really clear, unless you mean the mixed people of Spanish descent which I’d assume here since he does not look white. It can get a little complicated, but that’s how it is. I always find it funny when people assume mulattoes are “spanish” because they are confusing them with other mulattoes from Spanish countries who are only part Spanish.

  6. Denise

    Genealogy tests are not always exactly accurate. Although Indians are classified as Caucasian, many of them are darker than most dark skinned African-Americans.Indians have some African lineage, but they would rather deny it. India is a country that has a booming skin bleaching industry and people who are of an African percentage are outcast ed and looked at as a “Douglas” and viewed as half caste. I commend his mother for acknowledging her black ancestry,unlike most Latinos,Indo Europeans and dark skinned Sicilians.

  7. Chance

    Denise Wrote:
    Friday, February 29, 2008 at 2:05 pm –
    Genealogy tests are not always exactly accurate. Although Indians are classified as Caucasian, many of them are darker than most dark skinned African-Americans.Indians have some African lineage, but they would rather deny it. India is a country that has a booming skin bleaching industry and people who are of an African percentage are outcast ed and looked at as a “Douglas” and viewed as half caste. I commend his mother for acknowledging her black ancestry,unlike most Latinos,Indo Europeans and dark skinned Sicilians.

    My response: First of all DNA test detect what you have in your genes nothing more. It is way more accurate than inaccurate, and could please tell me how is it inaccurate? It detects the DNA markers that you are carrying, Wayne Joseph’s phenotype matched what his genetic DNA markers said he had in him and that was 57% Indo European, 39% native American, and 4% east Asian. Whoopi Goldberg’s DNA test came back as 92% black and 8% European and if you look at he phenotype it matches her DNA test results. Now you can have phenotype that is darker and have more European genes too.
    Some people in India have black African genetic DNA markers not all.
    There is a strong possibility that Wayne’s mother does not have any black African DNA markers – because if she did more than likely Wayne would have received some of them.
    On top of that many African Americans have white in but don’t care anything for white ancestry or white DNA markers. It is a known fact that many Italians and Sicilians, southern Spaniards, southern Portuguese, and Mediterranean whites have black and Arab ancestry from long ago.
    Yes, they have black in them and so do many mestizo Latinos. Many people don’t want to waste time with acknowledging they have black ancestry because they don’t want to be bothered with blacks trying to force them to be black – when these people are not black. On top of that having black ancestry is so trivial too them because they have way more European DNA markers in their ancestry. Approximately 74 million white American have black ancestry in their genes – but it is so trivial – and small percentage wise in most cases that they can over look it because it contributes little to nothing about whom they are as whites.

  8. Randi

    Chance said: “On top of that many African Americans have white in but don’t care anything for white ancestry or white DNA markers.”

    Randi: Chance, maybe these blacks don’t want to be bothered with folks like you trying to force them to be mulatto. Think about it. Can’t you see how trivial this is the same way Italians might feel about their black ancestry?

    Chance said: “Many people don’t want to waste time with acknowledging they have black ancestry because they don’t want to be bothered with blacks trying to force them to be black – when these people are not black. On top of that having black ancestry is so trivial too them because they have way more European DNA markers in their ancestry.”

    Randi: You clearly place a very high premium on white DNA and never miss an opportunity to take backhanded swipes at blacks do you? Also you never answer questions about whether or not those dreaded black family members know the extent of your hatred for them, but have they detected anything over the year? It sickens me to my stomach anytime I encounter blacks who are unaware of mulatto racism but I’m buoyed by those who are “finally” catching on.

  9. Betty

    Chance: I don’t care who ever you are or what ever your “race” is. But your story about Wayne and your comments showed that you have a hatered on Africans or Blacks. First of all race is not something that you get by choice or by force. If someone is born with some kind of race or color that is it. That person has never given the vote to decide on his/her race. But if the person values his/her self, they will live with themselves. Of course people try to change not only their color but also thier gender; silly them. Don’t like themselves so they are trying to get protection. Anyways, those whom you said “don’t want to be bothered by blacks,” it wasn’t blacks who were forcing people to be black or white. It was the whites because of their economic interest. As they needed as many slaves as they could, they were telling poeple the “the one drop” phylosophy. After all color and race has nothing to do with eachother. If you are born in France but got black color, you are black and you are French. However, as I mentioned above, some parts of the society were enslaving other parts and at some point those people started associating slavery with blackness. And to get many slaves, they were push every possible person to the black race. Now, talking about Wayne, you said that he was liberated. Liberated from what? Wheter you are black or white, there is nothing you are liberating from. Of course, when we have millions racists like you, ya it seem he is liberated. But if you are willing to broaden your limited knowledge about ancestory, everyone came from Africa, black or white. By the way, Africa has many light skinned people but still don’t have problem of being African. The way you tried to present your story is the only problem. Africaninsm is not opression. Europeanism is not liberation. What maters is not your race, what matters is who you are. By the way, human beings proved that they are capable of opressing and exploiting others for any possible reason. If you open your eyes, it was whites the first enslaved in this land, the indentured servitudes before the arrival of Africans in mass. Anyways, if Wayne thinks that the so called DNA result is a liberation, he was not in an oprassion of Africanism but lust for whitism. And you, Chance, better read before picking your “pen” to write.

  10. proud black man

    Betty

    You toke the word right out of my mouth. well said sister. Bless your good heart.

  11. Janise

    Well said. Chance and his cronies have a serious problem with their idenity.

  12. Joseph

    No Janise,

    It is YOU who have a serious problem with our identity. I’m mulatto.

  13. Honey

    Joseph,

    Don’t waste your time responding to those who are NOT even Mulatto. They are clearly obsessed with us. (I wonder why they so desperately want to be an authority on Mulatto people?)

    @ DENISE:
    Get over it Denise. You are the one who has an identity problem: It’s called self-hatred.

  14. Lisa

    Hey Denise!

    Don’t cha just love our gorgeous, honey colored, “good hair-ed” light-skinned Mulatto men?!!! Don’t cha??

    They are handsomeness in its purest form.
    (I just know you agree.) 😉

  15. Cee Cee

    @ LISA

    Reggie Bush…the sexiest man ever. sorry chocolate men are the best in my opinion.

  16. Lisa

    hmmm… isn’t Reggie Bush dating Kim Kardashian? I guess Reggie does NOT prefer the chocolate women; he likes ’em light. Oh well. 😉

  17. Cee Cee

    I’m not offended by that, I have my own chocolate man.
    oh and as far as kim…one mans trash is another mans treasure. big up ray j

  18. Lisa

    … nor should you be offended by Reggie’s obvious preference for the light pretties.

    oh, and with reference to you having your own chocolate man — at least as far as you know, he’s yours — let’s just hope it’s not temporary.

  19. Denise

    # Honey Wrote: @ DENISE:
    Get over it Denise. You are the one who has an identity problem: It’s called self-hatred.

    My Response:
    Get over what? I have enough intelligence to have multiple views on many issues, which is a result of my college education, wisdom from up above, my mother, and my life experiences. Insight is better than a fight.

    My response to the comment about Reggie and Kim K.: Kim K. is Caucasian. Reggie is your typical Black Athlete who wants a White Woman on his arm to validate his success.

    My response regarding my taste in men: I am not attracted to men who are too light or too dark; I prefer: medium complected Black men, dark skinned Middle Eastern, East African, Dark Latino, Black and Asian mixture, but never yellow colored men, no offense to the yellow brothas, but I do not find very light skin attractive, neither too dark-no offense to the dark skinned brothas.

  20. Denise

    # Lisa Wrote:
    Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 7:26 am –

    Hey Denise!

    Don’t cha just love our gorgeous, honey colored, “good hair-ed” light-skinned Mulatto men?!!! Don’t cha??

    They are handsomeness in its purest form.
    (I just know you agree.) 😉

    Denise Wrote: How old are you, 90? The term good hair played out with the brown paper bag test. For the record, I am multi-racial(Black, Caucasian, and Native American), I am not mullato, I hate that name, it means half mule and half donkey; I am not a donkey or a mule; I am a beautiful multi-ethnic woman, who embraces her African Identity more, because that is what I chose, I am a adult. Everyone has the right to identify with what they relate to, it does not mean that they do not acknowledge their other racial mixtures. Not all “mullato” people are light skinned. I have a beautiful,bronze Caramel complexion-a mixture of my Black and Caucasian roots, beautiful jet black hair and high cheekbones from my Native American mixture, not to mention the curves that mother Africa gave me. Lighter skinned biracial women in my family wear bronzers to get my complexion. Best of three worlds, not both, how about that.

  21. Lisa

    Denise wrote: How old are you, 90?

    No. I’m 24.

    The term good hair played out with the brown paper bag test.

    Accordingly, had you paid attention, you would have noted the phrase “good hair” was in quotes.

    … I am not mullato, I hate that name, it means half mule and half donkey; I am not a donkey or a mule;…

    Everyone now knows one of the definitions of the term “Mulatto”, for which we thank you. (btw Mulatto has one L, two Ts.)

    So you’re not a fan of “half mule and half donkey”? What about “monkey”?

    I am a beautiful multi-ethnic woman, who embraces her African Identity more, because that is what I chose, I am a adult.

    Yes, it’s nice to have the freedom to choose how you identify.

    You say you are “a adult”? I say you are “an adult.”

    Everyone has the right to identify with what they relate to, it does not mean that they do not acknowledge their other racial mixtures.

    Exactly.

    I have a beautiful,bronze Caramel complexion-a mixture of my Black and Caucasian roots, beautiful jet black hair and high cheekbones from my Native American mixture,

    I encourage you to keep believing you’re beautiful. 🙄

    …not to mention the curves that mother Africa gave me.

    So you’re a FatAss.

    Lighter skinned biracial women in my family wear bronzers to get my complexion.

    I submit it’s the other way around: YOU ENVY LIGHT SKIN and hide from the sun.

    Best of three worlds, not both, how about that.

    How about… http://MixedChicks.net
    *

  22. Joseph

    Denise,

    Why could you not get your curves from your caucasion family? I think it is totally wrong when people think white women are not curvacious or have no asses. There are plenty of white women who are curvey and with beautiful asses, but there are also those who want to live up to an ideal that is not even theirs, at least here in America. That ideal being the skinny chick with a flat ass and big tits. White women like I said have nice asses, as nice as any black women’s, and some have the pancake asses as do some of the black women. Check out the greek statues of those women with the beautiful physiques, not the skinny type, or in the many paintings of the old world. I must admit that there are some black women who do have exceedingly huge asses that white women probably cannot duplicate, but that’s fine, we each have something different from each other.

  23. Adriam

    Well first of all, indigenous white persons from Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, and other European nations have detectable black ancestry due to slavery in the past…however it does not count, it does not even effect their phenotypes. Now if one goes to the Caribbean, many people have discernable European/white features, yet no one is ready to pounce on them to claim their white admixture!

  24. Joseph

    Not sure what you mean by these people having detectable black ancestry due to slavery, but white women have had asses in the past and they have them now, and it is no result of any black admixture.

  25. Denise

    Black women and Latino women have the best bods in the world. The only reason why some White women have larger butts is because of the Brazilian butt lift,or they have some distant African lineage. For the record,I am not fat;there are many women of color who have a small waist, flat stomach, and a large backside, look at the women in Africa for example. Some women just got it like that. Yes, I do avoid too much sun, because it is unhealthy to expose your skin to too much of it; furthermore, it can lead to skin cancer.

    For the record, I do not envy light skin, my skin color is a bronze caramel, similar to the women in Brazil, they are the most beautiful women in the world, most of their “mulatto” population are not light skinned in the classic American sense, in which, people who were near white were considered as the light skinned persons.Just imagine how light your skin had to be to pass the brown paper bag test.Will Smith would have been considered too dark to be among the light skinned elites of the early 20th century.

    You, Lisa are passing on an ugly message to young girls. What if a young dark skinned black girl who is teased and taunted about her dark skin reads your blog statement.You are also setting a bad example for darker skinned biracial and multi-ethnic girls, because we come in all shades from cream to light brown.

    You said, what about Monkey. What do you mean Monkey? You are on here to get a raise out of someone. Stop with the chat line smiley face things-whatever they are called, this is a blog not a chat line. You seem to be very young;only a young mind(or a childish adult mind) would think to add smiley faces to their blog comments and call someone a fat ass, what are you going to call me next, a poo poo face. I basically wrote an essay response to your comments, oh well, I guess I have keyboard fever tonight.

    Sorry Wayne Joseph, I forgot this page was about you. One more thing, there is no crying in baseball-Tom Hanks, and there are no large butts descended from Europe, I rest my case, and my fingers from this keyboard.

  26. Denise

    I just came upon this:

    # Lisa Wrote:
    Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 1:47 pm –

    I have a biracial older sister. Yes I beleive the media, certain black people, and the world in general elevates this lightskin good hair is better crap. what is good hair any way?Fortunatley I grew up in a stable enviroment were people appreciated me and my sister and not for our looks.We are both considered atractive females in our community. Why do you assume that just because a black man or woman dates or marries a mixed race person or white person its because thay just love or envy their “light skin” or “good hair”. Maybe they just like or (dare i say )love each other.By the way who are you to tell people what they should identify with. Mixed race people should be able to identify with biracial, black or white. My sisrer identifies with black and no me and the black people in my family didnt put a gun to her head force her to do so. She grew up around black people and was raised by her black stepfather(my dad).She stills goes to vist her family her dad’s side. My mom make sure she kwows both sides of her heritage not just black or white.She also saw to it that my sister and i learned about other mixed race people too. Her white father died when she was 2 years old.If she chooses to identify with mixed, white or purple we will still love her. Not all black people are obsesed what mixed race people call themselves. When my sister identifies she makes that choice not us.

    Denise said: What happened to those positive views you had.

    Here are you views now:

    Lisa Wrote:
    Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 7:26 am –

    Hey Denise!

    Don’t cha just love our gorgeous, honey colored, “good hair-ed” light-skinned Mulatto men?!!! Don’t cha??

    They are handsomeness in its purest form.
    (I just know you agree.) 😉

    THEN YOU WENT ON TO SAY:

    “So you’re a FatAss.I submit it’s the other way around”: “YOU ENVY LIGHT SKIN and hide from the sun”.

    Denise said: Can you explain this situation to me, what is going on? You made a couple of grammatical errors as well, but you are correcting mine. Do not throw rocks when you live in a glass house, and a man who is without sin, cast the first stone. I am not trying to attack you, I am just confused about your stance.

  27. Michael

    denise, have you considered there might be more than one Lisa? sounds like two different posters to me, so it might not be the Lisa you’re obsessing over.

  28. Joseph

    lol, that reminds me, there is this guy who said the quran is false because Mary had a brother named Aaron and Aaron was Moses brother and could not be alive during Mary’s time. I’m like, dude, Aaron could be any person, not just Moses brother.

  29. Denise

    Everyone is entitled to make mistakes, just like I stated, he who is without sin cast the first stone. This is a blog that deals with serious issues, this is not my space. There are some people who come on here to BS or cyber bully. Ok, I know that this is a blog site, but a very good one for intellectual people who actually have viewpoints that bring up good debate, not hate.

    If what I said does not apply to this Lisa, then it should not offend her.

    Like the old saying goes, you hit a hurt dog it will holler.

  30. Joseph

    What’s that saying mean?

  31. Denise

    It is an old Geechee saying from the Low Country region of South Carolina and the Coastal Empire region of Georgia. It means that, if someone is offended by something they will respond in a raging or hateful manner.

  32. Joseph

    Oh ight, cause I was thinking, if you hit a dog regardless if it is hurt or not it will feel the impact and probably yelp at you, or bark, or snap, or retaliate in some manner.

  33. Marisol

    Yikes– if it looks like a duck… Do you think South Asians have had an easy time of it? Look at what happened there under the Raj. And they make color distinctions that would curl your hair, no pun intended. Try talking to people of color in England (of Caribbean, African and Asian ancestry) — many of whom have coalesced politically around the shared history of oppression, colonialism, racism and immigration-related discrimination — despite their family’s national origin — they use the term Black to describe themselves. Wakeup, this cell dividing between people of color is suicide!

  34. Joseph

    No, the suicide is losing your identity and trying to fit in.

  35. Marisol

    Joseph you’re scary — read carefully I think I was agreeing with you.

  36. Marisol

    In other words, Wayne Joseph person had better carry his “liberation” papers with him everywhere he goes. Besides, I don’t know about genetic codes, but the south Asians that look like him are the result from ancient African migration.

  37. Joseph

    Marisol,

    No we are not agreeing. I think people sharing a common experience calling themselves the same race when one faction is Asian and the other is Black is foolish. Actually I’m not scary looking. People tend to think I’m effeminate looking, but if you think what I’m saying is scary that’s your opinion and I do not wish to change it.

  38. Mr. perfect white guy

    “The one drop blood rule has always been a problem, and Wayne Joseph is one of the victims who has found some liberation from it.” wow thank God he found liberation from it. that one drop rule is a killer man. imagine if he spent all his life thinking he was black. Ignorant idiots! since when has being black a disease? one drop rule only applies to having a drop of black blood in you? wow! that does make being black like a virus..is there a cure? YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

  39. Essay

    … and one drop of white blood makes you ________.

  40. Joseph

    White according to the Racial Intergrity act of 2008. 🙂

    One Drop this and that, I’m like a Screwdriver (the drink), something new from two different things.

  41. esteban eduardo

    Since Mr Joseph has an American identity, to the Euro-American (aka average white person) he will always be what he may be perceived to be escaping!

  42. Joseph

    No white person has ever called me black, but they will ask if I am latin, which in America is the new word for mulatto.

  43. stephanie

    wayne joseph is my grandpa

  1. 1 The Fallacy of RACE /  The-Ave.US

    […] by genetics, than why is “race” determined by some trace of an African heritage? There is an even more dramatic story about Wayne Joseph.  Mr. Joseph was the principal of a big suburban high school in southern California, had an […]




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